I was reading updates on Twitter a bit ago, and came across a tweet from a Think Atheist member, Jin-Oh Choi, who posted a video on the site titled "Creationists threatens youth with eternal damnation". (links to the video on youtube)
This video was put out by a group called Revolution in Christ, and I went to their site to check them out.
They are a group who wants all churches to get back to the real biblical teachings, no more of this "come as you are, stay as you are, we love you just the way you are", and accepting of other lifestyles, and abortions, divorces etc.
They want the full on biblical experience to be taught and preached, which personally, I don't think will go over very well because whenever I've had a conversation with a self-professed Christian, they do not like the old testament, they think that it's when God was speaking in metaphors, that the new testament completely wipes out the old, and this group, Revolution in Christ, is all hell no folks, the bible is a book, 1 book, and the whole book is the unerring and completely infallible word of God, it's all his word, nothing in it wipes out anything else in it, God will punish you severely for not believing in him and sinning your asses off.
I looked around the site a bit and found a page called Munitions, where I found many links to all kinds of things like a 12 year old girl speaking out against abortion, and an article on megachurch pastor, Joel Osteen.
I see Joel Osteen on the tv every week, several times a week probably, as I'm surfing through the channels, and sometimes if there's nothing else on, I watch Joel preach to the thousands in attendance at his megachurch.
Personally, I don't like him, I think he's another fraud who likes raking in millions from innocent people who just want to believe so much in God and Jesus, and that when they die, all of their pain and suffering will be taken from them and they will live in the loving embrace of their savior for all eternity.
These people, in my opinion, are simply afraid of death, they cannot bear the idea that when they die, that's it, nothing.
And I also just don't trust Osteen.
He has super squinty eyes, he blinks like a gazillion times in 1 minute, and his smile is faker than the painted one on a Barbie doll.
I read something once somewhere, can't recall where or when now, that said something about small, beady-eyed people and those who blink a lot, like extreme blinking, and how 9 times out of 10, they are proven to be liars and more untrustworthy than other people.
Anyway, I was curious what this article had to say because the title of it is "Author sends out press release in defense of Osteen."
The article is basically 1 Christian, article author Ingrid, slamming another Christian author, Richard Young, who came to the defense of another Christian's (Osteen) latest book.
The article writer, Ingrid, goes after the Christian author for defending Osteen, and then goes after Osteen.
Ingrid wants "Joel Osteen to repent of his false teaching and his man-centered gospel and stop misleading the millions of people who follow his ministry. He is a false teacher and the consequences are eternal."
What I found interesting in the article though, was the criticism of Osteen's use of scriptures in his latest book, and Ingrid feels that Osteen uses scriptures to make himself appear to be a follower of Christ, yet he's really not, and then Ingrid said this;
"He has people raise a Bible over their heads at the start of his messages to assure everyone that he believes the Word of God. Then he proceeds to completely contradict the very Word he claims to follow. We are here on this planet for God's glory, not our own. God does not want us on a journey of deeper "self-discovery" as Osteen claims in his new book. He wants us to go deeper and deeper into the knowledge of His Son, Jesus Christ. We are to decrease and Christ must increase in our lives."
The part I find really funny and have been thinking it myself for many years now is this, God does not want us on a journey of deeper "self-discovery",... and he wants us to go deeper and deeper into the knowledge of His Son, Jesus Christ. We are to decrease and Christ must increase in our lives."
I''ve been saying it for quite a few years, Christianity wants to keep you dumb.
The dumber you are, the easier it is to convince you that you're a sinner who must repent to a God that many men created about 6,000 years ago in a book. (It's also a whole lot easier to get you to part with your money)
There's a couple of great quotes from the late musician Frank Zappa, that I think fit perfectly with what Ingrid said about believers gaining more knowledge of Christ rather than of themselves or any other knowledge.
I'm going to quote a few of them here for you, they explain his thoughts on this subject the best, and I happen to agree with it completely.
The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree? Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to be as smart as God. We can't have that."
Nope! God cannot have you anywhere near as smart as he is, because then you'd know he was pulling your leg on a whole lot of stuff! LoL
The essence of Christianity is told to us in the Garden of Eden story. The fruit that was forbidden was on the Tree of Knowledge. The subtext is, All the suffering you have is because you wanted to find out what was going on. You could be in the Garden of Eden if you had just kept your fucking mouth shut and hadn't asked any questions.
Bwahahahahahahaha!
And; So, when Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden, if you go for all these fairy tales, that "evil" woman convinced the man to eat the apple, but the apple came from the Tree of Knowledge. And the punishment that was then handed down, the woman gets to bleed and the guy's got to go to work, is the result of a man desiring, because his woman suggested that it would be a good idea, that he get all the knowledge that was supposedly the property and domain of God. So, that right away sets up Christianity as an anti-intellectual religion. You never want to be that smart. If you're a woman, it's going to be running down your leg, and if you're a guy, you're going to be in the salt mines for the rest of your life. So, just be a dumb fuck and you'll all go to heaven. That's the subtext of Christianity.
But it's true, (the story) look it up in the bible, it was the 1 thing in the entire garden that he forbade them to touch, forbade them to eat the fruit from it, and he stuck it smack dab in the middle!
It was the biggest of all of the trees, it's apples were huge, red, and shiny, practically beckoning them to come eat them.
And he told Adam what it was, and then he lied to him.
Genesis Chapter 2: 16 And he commanded him, saying: Of every tree of paradise thou shalt eat: 17 But of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat. For in what day soever thou shalt eat of it, thou shalt die the death.
He told Adam that the tree of knowledge contained all of the good and all of the evil and all of his knowledge, and if he ate even 1 bite, on the very day and moment he took that bite, he would surely die.
They both took bites and did not die, and they did gain all of the knowledge, they knew both good and evil.
And when they took that bite and gained the knowledge, they knew he had lied to them, they became fully aware and intelligent, the 1 thing he didn't want of his creations.
He wanted them to remain blissfully stupid for all of eternity.
And then later on as his son Jesus (God impregnated a virgin with himself so that he could live as a man, die, and then become God again and have a ghost of himself) is dying on the cross, Jesus tells everybody that he's dying to save us from our sins, that he's taking the punishment for all of us because the first 2 people God created disobeyed and sinned, and now we're all sinners for all eternity unless we believe Jesus, repent, and beg for his forgiveness.
Not once in all of that, does God take any of the blame on himself, he's a liar, he lied to them.
He had Adam and Eve living in fear of that tree, that if they took a single bite, they'd die a most painful and wretched death, and it was all a lie, but nope, no siree bob, he allows his own son, his reincarnated self, to die to save us all from our sins, but he's the real and ultimate sinner here.
Heck, 1 of his own 10 commandments, is thou shalt not lie.
#8 You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor, which simply means, you shall not lie, when in fact, it's God who lied in hopes of keeping us stupid for all eternity.
Now we have a new group of Christians, Revolution in Christ, who wants all churches and all Christians, to get back to the bible, the real bible, what it really says, not all of this comfy and cute we love all of you exactly the way you are so that we can fill up the pews every Sunday and take some more of your money, so that we can decrease ourselves and increase our knowledge of Christ.
They want Christians to become dumber, stop gaining general knowledge, stop improving themselves so that they can serve God better.
He is not happy with his creations, we are sinning every day of our lives, we are getting more and more intelligent every single day, but that's not what the bible tells us, that's not what God wants.
God wants you to be dumb.
He created us, created paradise, planted a huge tree full of his knowledge smack in the middle of it all, told us what it was, lied to us, and then punished us when we learned the truth.
That IS the subtext of Christianity, and every time some group makes a new video trying to convince us that evolution is a lie, that it's evil, it is their way of trying to make us more stupid, to make us stop searching for the answers, to stop digging up fossils, to just stop all of our pursuits for knowledge and information, so that we can stay dumb and be idiotic servants that he can control easily.
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This video was put out by a group called Revolution in Christ, and I went to their site to check them out.
They are a group who wants all churches to get back to the real biblical teachings, no more of this "come as you are, stay as you are, we love you just the way you are", and accepting of other lifestyles, and abortions, divorces etc.
They want the full on biblical experience to be taught and preached, which personally, I don't think will go over very well because whenever I've had a conversation with a self-professed Christian, they do not like the old testament, they think that it's when God was speaking in metaphors, that the new testament completely wipes out the old, and this group, Revolution in Christ, is all hell no folks, the bible is a book, 1 book, and the whole book is the unerring and completely infallible word of God, it's all his word, nothing in it wipes out anything else in it, God will punish you severely for not believing in him and sinning your asses off.
I looked around the site a bit and found a page called Munitions, where I found many links to all kinds of things like a 12 year old girl speaking out against abortion, and an article on megachurch pastor, Joel Osteen.
I see Joel Osteen on the tv every week, several times a week probably, as I'm surfing through the channels, and sometimes if there's nothing else on, I watch Joel preach to the thousands in attendance at his megachurch.
Personally, I don't like him, I think he's another fraud who likes raking in millions from innocent people who just want to believe so much in God and Jesus, and that when they die, all of their pain and suffering will be taken from them and they will live in the loving embrace of their savior for all eternity.
These people, in my opinion, are simply afraid of death, they cannot bear the idea that when they die, that's it, nothing.
And I also just don't trust Osteen.
He has super squinty eyes, he blinks like a gazillion times in 1 minute, and his smile is faker than the painted one on a Barbie doll.
I read something once somewhere, can't recall where or when now, that said something about small, beady-eyed people and those who blink a lot, like extreme blinking, and how 9 times out of 10, they are proven to be liars and more untrustworthy than other people.
Anyway, I was curious what this article had to say because the title of it is "Author sends out press release in defense of Osteen."
The article is basically 1 Christian, article author Ingrid, slamming another Christian author, Richard Young, who came to the defense of another Christian's (Osteen) latest book.
The article writer, Ingrid, goes after the Christian author for defending Osteen, and then goes after Osteen.
Ingrid wants "Joel Osteen to repent of his false teaching and his man-centered gospel and stop misleading the millions of people who follow his ministry. He is a false teacher and the consequences are eternal."
What I found interesting in the article though, was the criticism of Osteen's use of scriptures in his latest book, and Ingrid feels that Osteen uses scriptures to make himself appear to be a follower of Christ, yet he's really not, and then Ingrid said this;
"He has people raise a Bible over their heads at the start of his messages to assure everyone that he believes the Word of God. Then he proceeds to completely contradict the very Word he claims to follow. We are here on this planet for God's glory, not our own. God does not want us on a journey of deeper "self-discovery" as Osteen claims in his new book. He wants us to go deeper and deeper into the knowledge of His Son, Jesus Christ. We are to decrease and Christ must increase in our lives."
The part I find really funny and have been thinking it myself for many years now is this, God does not want us on a journey of deeper "self-discovery",... and he wants us to go deeper and deeper into the knowledge of His Son, Jesus Christ. We are to decrease and Christ must increase in our lives."
I''ve been saying it for quite a few years, Christianity wants to keep you dumb.
The dumber you are, the easier it is to convince you that you're a sinner who must repent to a God that many men created about 6,000 years ago in a book. (It's also a whole lot easier to get you to part with your money)
There's a couple of great quotes from the late musician Frank Zappa, that I think fit perfectly with what Ingrid said about believers gaining more knowledge of Christ rather than of themselves or any other knowledge.
I'm going to quote a few of them here for you, they explain his thoughts on this subject the best, and I happen to agree with it completely.
The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree? Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to be as smart as God. We can't have that."
Nope! God cannot have you anywhere near as smart as he is, because then you'd know he was pulling your leg on a whole lot of stuff! LoL
The essence of Christianity is told to us in the Garden of Eden story. The fruit that was forbidden was on the Tree of Knowledge. The subtext is, All the suffering you have is because you wanted to find out what was going on. You could be in the Garden of Eden if you had just kept your fucking mouth shut and hadn't asked any questions.
Bwahahahahahahaha!
And; So, when Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden, if you go for all these fairy tales, that "evil" woman convinced the man to eat the apple, but the apple came from the Tree of Knowledge. And the punishment that was then handed down, the woman gets to bleed and the guy's got to go to work, is the result of a man desiring, because his woman suggested that it would be a good idea, that he get all the knowledge that was supposedly the property and domain of God. So, that right away sets up Christianity as an anti-intellectual religion. You never want to be that smart. If you're a woman, it's going to be running down your leg, and if you're a guy, you're going to be in the salt mines for the rest of your life. So, just be a dumb fuck and you'll all go to heaven. That's the subtext of Christianity.
But it's true, (the story) look it up in the bible, it was the 1 thing in the entire garden that he forbade them to touch, forbade them to eat the fruit from it, and he stuck it smack dab in the middle!
It was the biggest of all of the trees, it's apples were huge, red, and shiny, practically beckoning them to come eat them.
And he told Adam what it was, and then he lied to him.
Genesis Chapter 2: 16 And he commanded him, saying: Of every tree of paradise thou shalt eat: 17 But of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat. For in what day soever thou shalt eat of it, thou shalt die the death.
He told Adam that the tree of knowledge contained all of the good and all of the evil and all of his knowledge, and if he ate even 1 bite, on the very day and moment he took that bite, he would surely die.
They both took bites and did not die, and they did gain all of the knowledge, they knew both good and evil.
And when they took that bite and gained the knowledge, they knew he had lied to them, they became fully aware and intelligent, the 1 thing he didn't want of his creations.
He wanted them to remain blissfully stupid for all of eternity.
And then later on as his son Jesus (God impregnated a virgin with himself so that he could live as a man, die, and then become God again and have a ghost of himself) is dying on the cross, Jesus tells everybody that he's dying to save us from our sins, that he's taking the punishment for all of us because the first 2 people God created disobeyed and sinned, and now we're all sinners for all eternity unless we believe Jesus, repent, and beg for his forgiveness.
Not once in all of that, does God take any of the blame on himself, he's a liar, he lied to them.
He had Adam and Eve living in fear of that tree, that if they took a single bite, they'd die a most painful and wretched death, and it was all a lie, but nope, no siree bob, he allows his own son, his reincarnated self, to die to save us all from our sins, but he's the real and ultimate sinner here.
Heck, 1 of his own 10 commandments, is thou shalt not lie.
#8 You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor, which simply means, you shall not lie, when in fact, it's God who lied in hopes of keeping us stupid for all eternity.
Now we have a new group of Christians, Revolution in Christ, who wants all churches and all Christians, to get back to the bible, the real bible, what it really says, not all of this comfy and cute we love all of you exactly the way you are so that we can fill up the pews every Sunday and take some more of your money, so that we can decrease ourselves and increase our knowledge of Christ.
They want Christians to become dumber, stop gaining general knowledge, stop improving themselves so that they can serve God better.
He is not happy with his creations, we are sinning every day of our lives, we are getting more and more intelligent every single day, but that's not what the bible tells us, that's not what God wants.
God wants you to be dumb.
He created us, created paradise, planted a huge tree full of his knowledge smack in the middle of it all, told us what it was, lied to us, and then punished us when we learned the truth.
That IS the subtext of Christianity, and every time some group makes a new video trying to convince us that evolution is a lie, that it's evil, it is their way of trying to make us more stupid, to make us stop searching for the answers, to stop digging up fossils, to just stop all of our pursuits for knowledge and information, so that we can stay dumb and be idiotic servants that he can control easily.
Joel Osteen's voice makes me want to vomit. Sweety knows this and gets a huge kick out of finding him on t.v. and telling me that he "enjoys the message" while watching me roll my eyes like a crazed horse.
I never understood how Adam, the prototype, could be produced from dirt, BUT Jesus, the perfection, had to come from man.
Was Adam not human?
You've hit on it, Kat.
But, don't blame god, he's not real. He can have no blame, no more than Sasquatch or the Eeaster Bunny.
It is MAN who created religion, and it is these same type of people who wish us to remain stupid. Thats the way they can control us.
Throughout history, " Be good or God's gonna git ya!" I call Bullshit on it all. If god wants to get anyone, it should be the ones killing in his name.
Well you and I know that god isn't real, but I wrote this for my many christian readers who want so much to believe in life after death in the loving embrace of a god, I want them to know the truth.
There is no god, and the bible, the stories within it, are all there to keep them afraid and stupid.
The chapters and scriptures about the punishments he will hand down for sinning, are written to create and instill great fear so that they will behave, so that they will do everything that they can to please a god who would send them to a fiery hell where they will be tortured relentlessly for all eternity.
When god came back as himself born as his son Jesus, (the bible is very clear on who Jesus was, the reincarnated god) he did it so he could be like his creations, be human, be like the prototype Adam so that he could know the feelings humans had, both emotional and physical, so that he could know exactly how to create more fears so that he could control them better.
After they die, if they go to heaven, there will be no more physical or emotional pain, it will all be gone and they will only know joy.
If they were a sinner and St. Peter reads off their list of mis-deeds and asks god what he wants to do with them and he chooses to send them to hell, they will still feel all of the emotional and physical pains because hell is a place of torture, and each person's hell is specifically for them. They will know great physical pain and emotional pains like they never did in life, and it will be for all eternity, however long it is that god wants all life everywhere to go on, they will suffer his wrath in hell and it will be constant, and it will always be reminded to them that if they had just believed in him and had repented for their sins, they would be in heaven with him in peace and joy instead of eternal pain and suffering the likes of which no one could ever even possibly imagine.
If there was a god, he would not kill those who killed in his name at all, as a matter of fact, he'd probably save them a seat in heaven.
Why?
Because in the old testament, god was a mean bastard.
God condoned AND performed abortions, sometimes killing the mothers in the process by ripping their wombs from their bodies.
Here's a few scriptures you can look up in the bible if you want to see for yourself; (there are online versions of the bible, this is a good one, it's the king james version, http://www.carm.org/kjv/Gen/Gen_1.htm)
The first number is the chapter. (if you're not familiar with reading bible verses)
Hosea 9:11-16 Hosea prays for God’s intervention. “Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer. Give them, 0 Lord: what wilt thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. . .Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.” Clearly Hosea desires that the people of Ephraim can no longer have children. God of course obeys by making all their unborn children miscarry. Is not terminating a pregnancy unnaturally “abortion”?
Numbers 5:11-31 The description of a bizarre, brutal and abusive ritual to be performed on a wife SUSPECTED of adultery. This is considered to be an induced abortion to rid a woman of another man’s child.
Numbers 31:17 (Moses) “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him.” In other words: women that might be pregnant, which clearly is abortion for the fetus.
Hosea 13:16 God promises to dash to pieces the infants of Samaria and the “their women with child shall be ripped up”. Once again this god kills the unborn, including their pregnant mothers.
2 Kings 15:16 God allows the pregnant women of Tappuah (aka Tiphsah) to be “ripped open”. And the Christians have the audacity to say god is pro-life. How and the hell is it that Christians can read passages where God allows pregnant women to be murdered, yet still claim abortion is wrong?